last update 11 January 2012
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PROCTER CHRONOLOGY AND DOCUMENT LINKS
LINKS TO DOCUMENTS & PHOTOS RELATED TO PROCTERS, DOBSONS, STRINGERS ...
Recent Ancestors (with Portraits) Fletcher / Procter ancestor chart Fletcher Early Chronology and Document Links all bmd links
Photos and Procter church records from Barnard Castle Scarborough Trade Directories 1823 - 1905 Robert Procter's Descendants
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Earlier Fletcher, Procter and Stringer events
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Fletcher - Procter ancestor chart - Chart showing four + generations of Fletchers, Procters, Dobsons, Stringers, Dixons, and Sutcliffes with links to lots of documents. |
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The mill and village of Old Brignall were on the River Greta near Greta Bridge.
All that is left are the ruins of Old Brignall Church and a couple of small houses - at the end of a long, beautiful but very muddy walk down into the Greta River valley near Barnard Castle.
The church was in much better nick when it posed for JMW Turner's 1800s etching (lower right), though even then there was no sign of the mill or village.
Robert Procter moved here from Staindrop in the first half of the 1700s, and became Church Warden, Overseer (of the poor) and Constable during the second half of the 1740s.
One of his sons, another Robert Procter (1730 - 1799 (68)), married Elizabeth Hall in the Brignall church on 15 May 1758. He moved to Barnard Castle via Rokeby, where at least 3 children including Joseph were born. He was buried in Barnard Castle St Marys on 14 April 1799, though no tombstone has been located yet.. |
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St Mary's, Barnard Castle - 1790s
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Images of original 1790s records of Joseph Procter's first marriage to Mary Harrison, the birth of sons Robert and Harrison, and Mary's early death, along with more photos of Barnard Castle and St Marys Church.
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1801 - Elizabeth Procter (Ashton) baptised
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in St Olave, York - her father John Ashton was a coachman and the family came from Bubwith, on the River Derwent just south of York. We have tracked some of them back a couple of generations. |
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1803 - Elizabeth Dobson (Stringer) is baptised
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in the beautiful old Parish Church of Saint Mary, Scarborough where at least three generations of Stringers before her had also been baptised and wed (and probably buried).
The beautiful old parish church of St Mary has been there in various forms since at least the early 1100s. In 1189, shortly after Richard I acceded to the throne, it is said that whilst he was hangin out in Dover waiting to take off on the Third Crusade, he granted the revenues of St Mary's to the Abbot of (Cistercian) Citeaux. A big aisle building campaign in the early 1200s was a bit of an on again / off again thing because of Innocent III excommunicating King John and trying to financially ruin the Cistercians etc , but it was finished post John (and Innocent) in 1225. The aisles were further augmented with a transept This did not seem to slow the Scarborough masons who eventually went for the jackpot by doubling the length of the church with a Quire - all completed by 1450 and in use for nearly 200 years until, in 1645, one of O Cromwell's artillery officers sneaked a brace of canons into the church at night, and at daybreak opened fire on the royalist held castle. The castle returned fire enthusiastically and the when the smoke cleared the castle keep was ruined as was the "new" choir and much else in the church. When things settled down again there was not enough money to rescue the east end or the western towers but the rest of the church was lovingly rebuilt. In the mid 1800s there was a Victorian clean out and all the medieval clutter of galleries, box pews etc were removed. What was left is a most beautifully proportioned space, a lovely place to just sit and be!
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1819 - Robert Procter (25) (son of Joseph Snr) |
marries Elizabeth Ashton (17) under the hammer beam angel musicians of All Saints Church (North Street), York on 24 January 1819
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27 December 1827- Elizabeth Stringer (24) |
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marries Matthew Dobson, Master Mariner, in the beautiful Parish Church "on the hill" of Saint Mary, Scarborough. Their daughter Elizabeth will marry Robert Procter's son Joseph, but by this time the venue has switched to the Wesleyean Methodist Hall - possibly more satisfying spiritually, but not in the same league as a space.
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1828-29 Old Joseph Procter, Chemyst |
is recorded in the small but fascinating commercial directory which lists the occupations of the tradesmen who drove the small early Victorian market town of Barnard Castle. Joseph Procter was also listed as a Chemyst in the 1834 Pigots Directory of Barnard Castle.
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1828-29 Harrison Procter, Chemyst and |
brother of Robert, has a go at chemysting in Newborough (Scarborough - Pigot & Co Trade Directory 1829 & 1834 transcripts). |
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1831 Young Joseph Procter born in Walmgate, York, on 7 July 183, and later christened in St Denys Walmgate |
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1832 Young Elizabeth Dobson (Procter to be) christened in St Mary's Parish Church, Scarborough |
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1834 Pigot's York Directory |
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No mention of Robert the Chemyst either here or in the 1840 York Whites Directory |
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1840 Elizabeth Dobson snr in |
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1840 Whites Scarborough Directory under "miscellany of trades". |
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1841 - Robert & Elizabeth Procter in George St, Walmgate, York |
Robert Procter, Chemyst & Druggist, son of Joseph Procter Snr, Barnard Castle chemyst, and Mary Procter (Harrison), is living with wife Elizabeth (Ashton) and 4 children including Joseph in George St, Walmgate, York (living at the Fishergate end, now completely rebuilt).
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1841 - Harrison Procter (Robert's brother) |
& wife Fanny Procter are running the family chemyst etc in Barnard Castle. |
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1841 - Joseph Procter Snr, |
Robert and Harrison's father, retired from his Barnard Castle shop and aged 77, being looked after by daughter Jane in Broadgate, Barnard Castle. Grandson Michael Dixon (from a daughter of his third marriage) also in residence.
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1841 - Elizabeth Dobson (Stringer) aged 36 and |
2 daughters in Scarborough - husband (sailor Matthew Dobson) was not around, in fact we have no "evidence" of him after the 1832 birth of second daughter Elizabeth. She is shown here as having "independent means".
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1842 - Robert Procter dies suddenly on 2 August 1842, aged 48.
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The Procter family is living near the Fishergate Bar in Walmgate, York, one of the poorest urban areas in England, and he is buried at a cost of four and six (4s 6d) with 9 complete strangers in a public grave in York Cemetery. Many years' later there was a memorial headstone erected probably by his only son - Joseph Procter jnr - which included the names of other dead Procter family members. A transcript is shown on the left.
Wife Elizabeth much later (1861) remarries - retired farmer George Kettlewell - and lives on in Haxby till 22 Sept 1873 (72).
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1845 - The railway comes to Scarborough but |
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afterwards it takes over 50 years for the town's retail centre to move west to "outside the walls" Westborough (where the railway station is).
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1847 - Joseph Procter Snr dies |
in Barnard Castle aged 83 - not clear if he joined in the wives' grave in St Mary's.
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NOTE THAT FLETCHER DOCUMENTS ARE NOW ON A SEPARATE PAGE
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1851 - The family Chemyst shop in |
Barnard Castle now being run by three of Harrison Procter's children - Joseph, Elizabeth & John Hall Procter. |
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1851 - Harrison & Fanny Procter |
have returned to Scarborough to run a lodging house. |
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1851 - Elizabeth Dobson in Scarborough |
- now the mother and one daughter (who will marry Joseph Procter) milliner team living together. The handwriting is difficult to read but she seems to be described as a widow - it is likely in fact that Master Mariner Matthew had died / disappeared long ago in the mid 30s.
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1851 - Joseph Procter Jnr ........ |
has so far avoided showing up in any of our 1851 census searches.
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1859 - Joseph Procter (27) marries Elizabeth Dobson (26) in Scarborough. |
Draper (son of druggysts of Barnard Castle then Walmgate, York) and Milliner (daughter of a milliner and a master mariner) combine forces in the 1,800 seat old Centenary Wesleyan Methodist Chapel in Queen Street Scarborough. Witnesses William Frear(?) and Mary Purnell.
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1861 - Harrison & Fanny Procter |
still running a lodging house in Scarborough.
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1861 - Joseph & Elizabeth Procter start a family |
and a drapers shop in Newborough, Scarborough, "inside the walls".
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1861 - Elizabeth Dobson in Scarborough |
Now just Elizabeth snr (retired seamstress and widow) as jnr has become Mrs Procter and the master mariner has long died. She is probably living at Milson's Hospital / Almshouse.
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1861 - Elizabeth Procter (60 - widow of Robert) |
marries George Kettlewell in St Marys, Birkenhead (witnesses Benjamin Bake and Sarah Bake) and relocates to Haxby, just north of York. Joseph and Elizabeth Procter's son Benjamin has a christian name "Bake", but we have found out no more.
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1867 - Whites Scarborough Directory lists |
Procter, Jsph, Linen and Woolen , Silk Mercer, Milliner &c, 54 Newborough.
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1871 - Elizabeth Dobson in Milsons Almshouse |
Living with her is Mary Salmon her 19 year old milliner granddaughter.
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1871 - The Procter family at Scarborough, |
Langham House, Westborough (108 maybe ?). Joseph Procter is a master draper and wife Elizabeth a milliner. Their daughter Elizabeth Stringer Procter will marry Frank Edward Fletcher, son of Maria and John, whose ironmonger shop will be in North Street. 108 Westborough is outside the old city wall (which was roughly at North Street). The Newborough Gate or Bar was the main entry point through the walls of Old Scarborough. It was rebuilt in mid-Victorian times, but then got demolished in 1890.
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1872 - Kellys Scarborough Directory lists |
Procter, Jsph, Linen Draper, Westborough and 54 Newborough
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1873 - Elizabeth Kettlewell (formerly Procter) |
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dies in Haxby (Yorkshire) on 22 September aged 72. She lies buried in the churchyard with second husband George in grave 22/09. The gravestone is inscribed: "in memory of / George Kettlewell / many years churchwarden / of this parish / who died June 24th 1876 / aged 78 years / Also of Elizabeth his wife / who died Sepr 22nd 1873 / aged 72 years."
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19 February1880 - Elizabeth Dobson, the 78 |
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year old Relict of the long evaporated sailor hubbie Cap'n Matthew, dies in Scarborough after living in a home for distressed gentle-folk for many years. Her grave is to be found as No C 15 - 23 in Scarborough's Dean Road Cemetery (which is next door to the Manor Road one).
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1881 - The Procter family at 108 Westborough
thanks to the Scarborough Library for this c1900 photo
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Scarborough with 8 kids living over their Drapers shop. The shop is still there, though no longer a draper, its beautiful cast iron window frames a beautiful contrast to the square ordinariness of surrounding redevelopments.
Doreen Mary, one of the granddaughters, remembered that "it was quite a big establishment and it was said that a coach and horses could be housed over the shop in uncle Matthew's (eldest son of the Procter family) and Aunty Lizzie's lounge. Other children of the Procter family were Uncle Joe , Auntie Patt and Auntie Lily. My father was the youngest child. I remember I had three girl cousins of Uncle Matt. They were Lily, Loise and Lucy. Uncle Joe was the next son of the family. He had one daughter Muriel. Auntie Lily (married name Fletcher) lived in Folkestone and had four sons (ed: and two daughters!). Auntie Patt married Uncle Tom Miller and they had a son Max and a daughter Edna. They lived in Leicester and owned a restaurant and home made chocolate business. Tom Miller used to go to Grindlewald every winter curling, and he brought back an expert in chocolate making etc and consequently had a very thriving business. We used to go there for Xmas sometimes and I remember he used to have a decorated boar's head on the sideboard which was delicious to eat and lots of chocolates etc. Procter & Co were draper's and outfitters etc and when I visited Scarborough Uncle Matt and Uncle Joe used to be in the shop."
The gatherings would have taken place on the second floor - the first being the cutting room we think.
The Uncles and Aunts (Joseph and Elizabeth's children) were Matthew Dobson "Uncle Matt" (b1860), Robert Ashton (b1863, d1883 and later buried with parents), Joseph Edmund "Uncle Joe" (b1864), Elizabeth Stringer "Aunty Lily" (Fletcher) (1865 - 1953 (87)), Benjamin Bake & William Harrison (twins b1868, Benjamin also buried with parents), Martha "Auntie Patt" (Miller) (b1870), John (father of Doreen Mary) (b1872). It's interesting that Martha and John did not get a second christian name - all but one of the ones given were were surnames. There are still a number of Procters around Scarborough !
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24 April 1889 - Frank Edward Fletcher (25) marries Elizabeth Procter (23). |
On Wednesday 24 April 1889 in (a corner of) the huge (1,800 people capacity) Centenary Wesleyan Methodist "Chapel", in Queen Street, Scarborough. They immediately move as far south as they can go and make a successful life in Folkestone.
thanks to the Scarborough Library for this image
Today's grim looking and impenetrable chapel is an early 1900s rebuild after severe damage a major fire in next door Boyes store.
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1890 - Scarborough
Newborough Bar looking East from Westborough c1885
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The 1890 Scarborough Post Office / Bulmers Trade Directory lists both Procter, Jsph, Draper & Milliner, 108 Westborough, and Fletcher, John, Ironmonger – 20 North Street. In 1890 the Victorian Newborough Gate or Bar, whose predecessor was one of the two gated entrances to town, is demolished, the Westborough / Newborough roads are seamlessly joined and North Street is opened up. Mind you, the bar had obviously been no barrier to Frank Edward's romance with Elizabeth Procter.
Scarborough Trade Directories 1823 - 1905
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NOTE THAT FLETCHER DOCUMENTS ARE NOW ON A SEPARATE PAGE - CLICK HERE
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1891 - The Procter family still in Scarborough (shop on the left at the end of the street - which is still there today and in good nick in a sea of redbrick mediocrity, but no longer a draper!).
thanks to the Scarborough Library for this photo.
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Mr & Mrs P, nearing 60, are still drapering at 108 Westborough, helped by sons Matt and Joe and Elizabeth's niece Mary Salmon. They place an ad in the 1892 Hagyards Trade Directory.
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1901 - Joe Procter Snr (69) and Lizzie (68) |
still living over the shop at 108 Westborough, Scarborough. Joe dies on 17 November 1902 aged 71, and Lizzie keeps on until 1911 aged 79.
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1911 - Elizabeth (Lizzie) Procter (Dobson) |
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dies in Scarborough aged 79. She is buried with Joe in Manor Rd Cemetery, Scarborough - grave O 0-4.
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Many thanks to Bill Harrison and Martin Wolfgang for providing us with a lot of the information used in populating this page
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